Rick Santorum's Bizarre Revisionist View of the French Revolution
In the wake of Rick Santorum's recent three-peat, he's drawing more scrutiny, and the results are predictably awesome.
Check out this completely ahistorical take on the French Revolution.
SANTORUM: They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights, then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is the government that gives you right, what’s left are no unalienable rights, what’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the guillotine. Ladies and gentlemen, we’re a long way from that, but if we do and follow the path of President Obama and his overt hostility to faith in America, then we are headed down that road.
If a junior high student had written this gibberish in an essay on the French Revolution, he'd deserve an F.
Santorum has this exactly backwards, of course. It was under the French absolute monarchy and the Ancien Régime that one had no "unalienable rights" and had a government that could tell you "what you'll do and when you'll do it."
And the Revolutionaries, inspired by Enlightenment figures like Rousseau and the American Revolution, wrote and signed the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, which
...defines a single set of individual and collective rights for all men. Influenced by the doctrine of natural rights, these rights are held to be universal and valid in all times and places.
The first of these include:
- Men are born and remain free and equal in rights. Social distinctions may be founded only upon the general good.
- The aim of all political association is the preservation of the natural and imprescriptible rights of man. These rights are liberty, property, security, and resistance to oppression.
- The principle of all sovereignty resides essentially in the nation. No body nor individual may exercise any authority which does not proceed directly from the nation.
- Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.
Obviously, none of these rights existed under King Louis, and unfortunately for Santorum, the Catholic Church stood in direct opposition to the French Revolution and in support of the Ancien Régime.
Of course, this is all an aside to the fact that the notion President Robespierre Obama is about to unleash a Reign of Terror and start beheading clergy is well beyond insane.
someone who talks about less goverment ol ass juice sure wants alot of control.
So, you actually derived some time of cognitive message from these lunatic rantings?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The fundies that flock to him will let most of it go over their heads and take the message that Obama is ready to set up 'guillotine panels' for the faithful.(or something like that)
The statements of santorum will not be challenged in any of the media that his followers use.
History is boring unless somebody is getting smitten by the lord.
They don't have to burn the books, the evangelicals aren't reading them anyway.
Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces
They don't have to burn the books, the evangelicals aren't reading them anyway.
We have a Blue Ribbon winner.
Nice job.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Ya, he reminds me of these guys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFE-8_xsHog
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Rick Santorum did something bizarre with one of his unborn children if I remember correctly as well.
These people have no value for history. They like living a life based on lies and fairytales of good vs. evil.
If someone speaks the truth or uses logic they shun them like they did Ron Paul at CPAC.
We must do better as a media if we are going to save our society from these nutcases. God help us.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
They just make it up as they go along. It's like trying to have an intellectual debate with a three-year-old.
....truth.
Argument with conservative....me: sky is blue.
conservative: no it isn't. its a conspiracy obama created.
See, no argument with substance. you state a fact and they just deny it and blame Obama.
(I swear I've had these types of discussions where there is no counter to anything you say. No fact based argument just ideology and when challenged, they blame Obama. unreal the amount of stupidity you listen to when you argue with a conservatwit.)
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I once asked me idiot wing nut brother in law to explain to me how a system (SS) which still takes in more than it sends out is bankrupt?
All he could do was repeat the same idiotic talking point over and over again.
When I said NO, I don't want to hear the GOP bullshit talking point, I want you to explain it to me LOGICALLY!
He muttered something, and repeated the same dumb ass talking point again. I finally called him a chump and an idiot and walked away.
They have absolutely no critical thinking skills what so ever! None!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
"These people have no value for history".
On the contrary. They value it so much that they seek to appropriate it. It's no coincidence that among those reactionaries who currently control the GOP are many who first cut their political teeth winning school board elections.
*(Lincoln freely admitted the Union would not have prevailed in that war without black troops).
santorium took his dead baby home so his other children could hold him and cuddle him. What person in his right mind makes other children hold their dead brother?
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Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Apparently he believes the authority of royals is ordained by God. I think the founding fathers might have disagreed.
Yeppers, he made no mistake. He views history from the point of view of the wealthy elite. These people are still shocked at the French Revolution! Put any Rethug politician in 1774, and they'd be the most ardent royalists, and seek to stab our founding fathers in the back at every turn.
seem to know so little about it
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Palin said that Paul Revere fired the shots that warned the British that they weren't going to take away our guns.
Perhaps that was "the shot heard 'round the world" which Bachmann said was fired in Concord, New Hampshire.
Romney says that only Americans put their hands over their hearts during their national anthem.
All the candidates say that Obama has raised taxes and that his policies have added $5 Trillion to the deficit.
The Tea Partiers believe that the Federalist Papers were written to discourage a strong federal government.
Stephen Colbert's comedy writers couldn't do any better.
Willful ignorance and denial. tragically flawed individuals, all of them.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Back to the Divine right of Kings..
I don't think this comment has anything to do with the French Revolution. I think it's a big dog whistle to the Fundamentalists and taken from the Hal Lindsey book series on the Rapture. The anti-Christ used the guillotine on Christians who wouldn't renounce their faith. Therefore Obama is the anti-Christ. QED.
....the germans killed more people with a guillotine than the french did during their revolution. hitler felt it was a dehumanizing way to die. I learned that watching NCIS.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Well, actually it was Tim LaHaye's Left Behind series, but I think ol' Hal had something about in in the "Late Great Planet Earth."
Pretty cool that you noticed that, also... entirely too many liberal posters are woefully ignorant about the other side... but one of the many good things about being a liberal is that we believe that ignorance can be cured by education, whereas stupidity goes clean to the bone.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
A lot of the reason liberal posters are ignorant of things like Left Behind and Lindsay's stuff is that it's so GODDAMN BADLY WRITTEN that it can give you a migraine just trying to read it.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Horribly written... my comment was made more about a general tendency to get details wrong about religious things the rightwingers take very seriously... and a general lack of education about those very things.
One doesn't have to be a believer in any faith to get a little more educated, and the nuances really do matter...
For instance, Santorum's been accused of being a fundamentalist, which he is not, as that is a term coined by hardcore Protestants in the late-19th century regarding what they viewed as the "5 fundamentals of the gospel." Santorum is a Catholic of a very old-school variety... extremely conservative, but decidedly not Protestant.
It's rather the same thing that the right gets correctly criticized for with their "sharia law" bugaboos without ever knowing just what that term refers to...
and we on the left should know better.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
These differences matter, as it gives us better insight into their thought processes, if such they be, the better to counteract their lunacy and idiocy.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
is mentally ill. That's all you need to know.
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
Pretty much.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
so are his supporters.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
People in mobs can be unbelievably stupid. "Group Think".
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Isn't sucky sack of shit santorum a part of opus dei or something, that farking looking scum bag.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Actually, I refer to him as the Xtian Assmonkey.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
"Let them eat cold cuts."
If these assholes have their way it will be moldy salsa and concrete-like stale chips, you can't even make chilaquiles much less nachos with that shit.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Some Heads Are Gonna Roll
Step right up; don't be shy...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I have no doubt that Santorum read about the French Revolution, and what he read scared him (it should), and what he got out of it was that dribble.
And drivel...
I think dribble is the definition of Santorum.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEhDZN0RFjw
me-oww!
Too funny
If not now, when?
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
an Opus Dei group for three years......and I never EVER heard anything like Santorum.....although I figured they were pretty Right-wing.....
I wonder if any of the other ladies who worked with me are still there, or have even joined Opus Dei....(I was never asked to join 'the work' or never offered to.....just toooooo 'right' for me......)
and we thought Michelle Bachmann and Sarah were batshit crazy........
Which head, big or little, are we going to behead?
With priests I suggest the little one.
It was the clergy and the rich nobility that brought on the French Revolution. Their greed and collusion, restricting the average French citizen to having no say but being the only ones who pay taxes - the injustice, lack of fairness, that some would live lavishly while others starved, brought on the French Revolution. A king's inability to meet his people's needs brought on the French Revolution.
So what is Rick trying to say here, that Obama is King Louie?
sanitorum again hitting the 'god-given rights' drum?
"What’s left is the government that gives you right"
i take it, given the opportunity to go back in time, sanitorum would have fought vigorously against the bill of rights. those eeeeevil "government rights"
for a man that sees the devil in government, it is odd that he is fighting so hard to lead it.
I really have to wonder what the hell these idiots think they mean by this...
There are no "given" rights, either by someone's interpretation of the Absolute, or by government...
Government merely recognizes that such rights exist, and codifies the concepts in law to ensure that no one attempts to try to squelch such rights.
Dogwhistles to an audience already attuned to hear them...
And, FWIW, the frothy one and his supporters are crowing about the 3 "victories" when the actual winner from the R side is NOTA... None Of The Above, as most folks stayed home...
And... the real winner is President Obama... they're doing his campaigning for him by showing just how nuts they can be.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
would consist of re-playing any one of the GOP debates
and the funny thing about rights and the squelching thereof, is that the rightwing has historically been anti-codification and pro-squelch. and now mr. purity wants to talk scare his base about govt denying people their rights? *cough* fuck off rick, ffffffffffuck off
Seems to me the right wing wants to take away rights, especially rights of women. No birth control and no abortions. In other words women should stay home and have as many kids as nature with allow. Get women out of the work place and put them back where they belong. That's what I hear from these sanctimonious bastards.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
they want women back to work quickly as long as they are willing to work for a fraction of what a similarly qualified dude would make. then all is cool.
fraction of what a similarly qualified dude would make..(.....)"
yup, unless THEY are the ones who make a fraction....and it isn't someone ELSE making a fraction of what a 'similarly qualified dude would make'.....
makes a difference as to WHO makes the fraction...
believe me
But the Bible-thumpers taketh away.
Go figure.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
There are no existing rights that are not conferred by something outside oneself, either by (way back when) whatever god is worshiped, or by (these days) the society that one lives in. If I'm in France, I have the right to go topless on the beach. If I'm in America, I don't. I can yell about it all I like, but the fact is, that right is conferred on me by the French government but not by the American. I do not "have" that right in the universal sense, and neither do I have any of the other rights we take for granted, unless the rest of the society I live in agrees that I have it. Without that approval, the right remains just an abstract concept. Which is very nice but doesn't have any impact on the real world at all.
Here's an example: Stan wants the right to have babies.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Bottom line, it scares the hell out of me that this person has gotten this far in the campaign for President of our country. Just the fact that anyone in our country would consider him presidential material is the stuff of nightmares. I would fear living next door to him let alone having him anywhere near the bomb button.
The sad part is, the people he is appealing to have no more of a grasp on history than he does.....and his campaign knows that.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
It would be like the Ned Flanders of sociopaths.
Is that a character on The Simpsons? I haven't seen that show in years but that name sounds familiar. Is he an idiot too?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Having this backwards cracker as a Presidential candidate is no scarier than the other assorted fruits and nuts that were, and still are, in this race.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
This is all part of the plan. The GOP puts up nutcases that are so extreme they can never win, so that the elites can put forward a "reasonable" candidate (Obama) in the White House. A reasonable candidate that will still do their bidding and stop the flow of progressivism.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Except... there are no reasonable republicans that any of the reich wingers want to support - they all have less than 1% support. This is the doing of the reich wing electorate.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
And, that was why I said many times before that the Repukes 'enabled" McGrumpy to be their candidate in '08 and stuck him with imbecile Sarah....to ensure the already selected candidate, Barry, would win and move ahead with their plans to suck every last cent out of this country.
More evidence today - Obama's out touting the 'settlement' that allows the banks to keep the $13 Trillion they stole, while foreclosed families out on the streets get a check for $2k.
Is this a great country, or What??!!
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
He's a super religious Christian, with the green sweater and moustache. His two kids, Rod and Todd, are very sheltered and naive. Other kids pick on them. Flanders himself is depicted as having a well-muscled physique. He often calls up Reverend Lovejoy in the middle of the night worried about sin. Homer Simpson torments Flanders, steals from him, mocks him, bullies him, etc. But Flanders is still honest and decent. He is the embodiment of religious jokes on any given episode.
I have more respect for him than I do the fake Christian right. At least Flanders was written to always be a good person. That's something Republicans have totally lost focus on. Their view of religion is that it is a rule book for which they can refer to when they want to condemn other people, but one that they don't have to follow themselves.
until he has a white wine spritzer... spritzer... spritzer... spritzzzzz
Really, not much gets to him; he happily rolls on because his heart is good. He rarely preaches to others but keeps his religious beliefs to himself (OK, his family). Indeed, his character is not so much one of Christians to be mocked as it is of ones idealized.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I thought when you rewrite history...its called the Sarah Palinist view?
:)
So how long will it be until Little Ricky accuses President Obama of pulling the wings off of angels? I mean he should go ahead and say it, his audience would buy it and we can't disprove it. This is getting beyond insane and if it weren't so freakin' serious it might be funny.
I can not imagine what other countries must be thinking of us. We joke about other countries having crazy leaders so I guess some in this country are jealous of those countries and want their own nut job.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
he made baby jesus cry too
also, if rumors are correct he was the roman dolt who handed longinus his spear
Rick Santorum and his religious crusades...Ya know the whacked out muslims sure made our whack out christians come out of the woodwork...Do not wear your religion on your sleeve...Wasn't it Christ who said pray to your father in quiet solitude.......not loudly on street corners...these billy graham type politicians need
to STFU and go pray quietly, alone..
Theres no money in it.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
But that's one of those things the bible-thumpers absolutely refuse to acknowledge. Try quoting it at them and see if you get any answer more comprehensive than, "oh shut up". They HATE having things like that pointed out to them.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
in that rights are said to be natural, and not "ordained by god", but go down the page and you will find "This meant that at the time of the Declaration only white, male, property owners held these rights." pretty much the same conditions that obtained here after the war of independence.
here's about half the problem, rights are not from god, rights are a social arrangement, we have no "natural" rights, there is nothing "inherent and unalienable" about a damn thing, sad but true ladies and gentlemen, i hate to break it to you.
the sooner all parties involved realize this simple truth, that all of our laws are nothing less than the imposition of the (supposedly) popular will thru the coercive power of the state? the sooner we may figure things out.
in our country religious figures of all stripes are fighting a rearguard action to maintain the grip of outdated philosophies over the population, in other countries religious law is a fact of life; then there are a few loonies out on the fringe who wonder when we will actually develop a coherent humanist philosophy upon which to base our social arrangements, this country does not seem to be ready for that day.
Here we go again...I must quote the master.
"Here’s one more item for you, the last in our civics book: Rights. Why everyone in this country is always running around yammering about their fucking rights. I have a right, you have no right, we have a right, they don’t have a right… Folks, I hate to spoil your fun but—there’s no such thing as rights, okay? They’re imaginary. We made them up! Like the Boogie Man… the Three Little Pigs, Pinocchio, Mother Goose, shit like that. Rights are an idea, they’re just imaginary, they are a cute idea, cute… but that’s all, cute, and fictional. But if you think you do have rights, let me ask you this, where do they come from? People say, well, they come from God, they’re God-given rights… Aw fuck, here we go again… here we go again. The God excuse. The last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument, it came from God. Anything we can’t describe, must have come from God...Now, if you think you do have rights, one last assignment for you. Next time you’re at the computer, get on the Internet, go to Wikipedia. When you get to Wikipedia, in the search field for Wikipedia, I want you to type in “Japanese Americans 1942,” and you’ll find out all about your precious fucking rights, okay? "
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
A "right" is just a default state of being, defined more by its revocation.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Rather like there is no such thing as "cold;" it is the absence of heat, but I think it would be foolish to say that we do not feel cold.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
We don't have rights, we have privileges and privileges can be revoked. Happens all the time....see...American Civil War, United States post 9-11, China circa 1989...
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Egypt...Syria...Israel...Roman Empire...Cuba...
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Ask American women about their rights....WHITE American women...prior to suffrage.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Not going to argue semantics with you... my point remains that they are default states of being that are defined more by their absence/revocation/whatever...
To argue over the word is more akin to my saying it's A below middle C, and you saying it isn't, because it's 440hZ... *smile*
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
it's basic to our understanding of power relations. the supposed left as well as the right goes on about our "rights", the govt. violating them, etc. etc. all w/o the dook of a notion of what they are saying. if god gave rights, then he sure ain't around to guarantee them.
A "right" cannot be revoked, only a privilege can.
It's not semantics.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Is so! Is so! Is so!
*stamping feet*
*chuckle*
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Don't be Republican about it! LOL.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Figured I'd try a bit of role-playing... didn't like it much....
lol
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
i'll see your george cariln (which we have on an old VHS) and raise you some jean baudrillard.
http://free.art.pl/fotografie/baudrillard/sed...
i'm reading this for about the umpteenth time, scroll down to p. 167, the rest is foreplay.
Does this mean that if Santorum becomes President, that conservatives will rise up and call for the watering of the tree of liberty with his tyrant's blood, as they do regarding Obama?
Probably not . . .
playing in the background? I half expected to see a waitress with a tray of empties walk in front of the Well-Lubed Man-About-Town.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"....that all of our laws are nothing less than the imposition of the (supposedly) popular will thru the coercive power of the state?"
Reads like an over-simplification based on the least-well thought-out bits of Enlightenment philosophy regarding individual rights.
Og, his wife Mook and neighbor Nog are members of a stone-age tribe living in the Amazon rainforest. Over the eons, the tribe has come to find that if a neighbor sleeps with the wife of his neighbor bitter fights ensue, and the tribe shrinks to almost nothing, making it terribly hard for the remaining people to protect themselves, to survive in their environment. The tribe has developed a tradition- something law-like, but not codified- which is that if a man sleeps with the wife of another, the man is cast out of the tribe. He his left to fend for himself in the wild. So Nog, in defiance of the tradtion, sleeps with Mook, and is cast out and dies. The tribe continues on.
So, in this case, is the tradition- the law- a bad thing?
ETA: Meant as a reply to derekthered.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
I think I ran into that couple at Wal-mart the other day...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
here at a Riverside Co swapmeet last weekend.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
and raise him another stack of over-simplification chips?
the law is what is agreed upon by the people, nothing more. we agree murder is a bad thing, so we make it illegal, we don't even think about it.
i wouldn't have a clue as to enlightenment philosophy, is that Rousseau? somebody like that?
When I told a coworker that Santorum was a member of Opus Dei her comment was, "That's real? I thought that was made up in that book." This is a person who believes in Democratic issues but votes Republican because of the "sainted" Ronald Reagan. The "sainted" Ronald Reagan is either laughing at the joke Republicans have become and refusing to believe it or he is spinning in his grave. Reagan may have been befuddled and out of touch but he wasn't deliberately mean.
Protestants have no idea how messed up Santorum really is.
What gets me is these are the same people who go on and on about Sharia law and then they oppose the Presidents plan to cover all women when it comes to contraception. The Catholic Church's stance on birth control is the equivalent of Sharia law, which is one of the reasons, among many, that I cannot participate in the religion of my birth.
President Obama wants to,(completely), cover all women with a burqa of health care so it must be a Muslim/sharia conspiracy.
The first casualty of republicanism is the truth.
Party politics are not only undemocratic, they are antidemocratic.
Frothy is an old school fascist. His meme is no different than that of the bigot standing on the soap box on the street corner.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
understand why we worked so hard in Pennsylvania to get this flaming *******>>> out of the US Senate in'06.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
For all you that think Rick Santorum is a good Catholic.
Here is how Rick fares against me on matters of adherance to Roman Catholic Church Doctrine.
Round 1:- Rick Santorum (supposed Catholic) vs Dave The Sandman (Atheist)
http://alstefanelli.wordpress.com/2012/01/07/...
Result: - Rick isnt just a BAD Catholic....he is a schismatic heretic.
Round 2:- Newt Gingritch (supposed Catholic) vs Dave The Sandman (Atheist)
http://alstefanelli.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/...
Result.....same as Rick. Newt is a bad bad Catholic.
Anyways....can we all agree. If you are an American, unless your name is Shelby Foote, you dont get to discuss matters of history.
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